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Post by scionwithbass Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:53 pm

Ok, so I want to upgrade my system. Right now I have the 2 15" Qs and they have the high QTS option so they can be run sealed and think thats why I get clipping when the volume gets to a certain point. So anyway, im trying to sell those then with the money from them and some money I have Ill have $800-900 and these are my ideas for a new system.

2 18" FI BLs or if you guys recommend a different company I can get 2 18s for $800 tell me please, im also considering DC but I don't have any prices from them.

1 21" Death penalty plus a new box for it.

4 FI X 15s (I want to know your opinions on 4 of the low level subs fi makes, all 4 on the DD M3a should be able to take the power, and Ill have more cone area) What are your thoughts on this? Im leaning towards this or the 2 18s.
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Post by stephen_og Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:06 pm

accordwithbass wrote:Ok, so I want to upgrade my system. Right now I have the 2 15" Qs and they have the high QTS option so they can be run sealed and think thats why I get clipping when the volume gets to a certain point. So anyway, im trying to sell those then with the money from them and some money I have Ill have $800-900 and these are my ideas for a new system.

2 18" FI BLs or if you guys recommend a different company I can get 2 18s for $800 tell me please, im also considering DC but I don't have any prices from them.

1 21" Death penalty plus a new box for it.

4 FI X 15s (I want to know your opinions on 4 of the low level subs fi makes, all 4 on the DD M3a should be able to take the power, and Ill have more cone area) What are your thoughts on this? Im leaning towards this or the 2 18s.

If you want to get any DC pricing contact john on here, aka meathead. But the first product that comes to mind from them for 18s from them that would most fit your budget and power would be either the lv3m2s or the lv4m2s..

well the 21" warden is a pretty spend woofer but IA's products are damn good.


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Post by scionwithbass Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:08 pm

I was thinking of the Warden 21" but someone told me it takes a TON of power to run it, my DD M3a puts out like 2200+ of clean watts at 1ohm. Will that be enough you think?
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Post by stephen_og Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:10 pm

well its a neo motor so yeah it takes a lot of power..

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Post by scionwithbass Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:15 pm

stephen_og wrote:well its a neo motor so yeah it takes a lot of power..

Thats what I thought, I want to stay away from neo motors because ill have to spend another $800 to get a second M3a and I dont have the money. My box was built for 18s so I just need to make a bigger cut out hole and throw the subs in. I think the FI BLs would be good or DC lvl 3 or 4 depending on the price.
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Post by stephen_og Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:41 pm

I say talk with john before you do any deciding on what to buy.. The new m2 line is completely revamped from the old m1.. The good thing about DC subs is they don't take a lot of space for there enclosures

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Post by scionwithbass Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:49 pm

What's johns user name? Or how can I contact him?
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Post by RRR37 Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:53 pm

The DC's sound like a better option to me. You have 5 cubes after displacement per sub? The DC's will run better in a smaller enclosure. The BL, or BTL's like a good 6 cubes if I remember right. I had a BTL 18 in a 4.5 cu. enclosure and it was loud, but nowhere near what it could have been in 6 cubes.
Also, if you don't want to add power, then that amp is not enough for BL, or BTL's. The Level 3's are more what you would be looking for.
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Post by scionwithbass Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:01 pm

I will add a second amp when I get more money this summer. I'm likening DC since your saying it will work in a smaller enclosure. Why get level 3s why not level 4s?
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Post by stephen_og Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:06 pm

Well the lv3s are rated for 900 watts but can take 1000 or even a little bit more as long as its clean power.. The lv4s are rated for 1400 watts.. As I was told.. The m2 line is a step up in every level so the lv3 m2 is like the lv4 m1 and the lv4m2 is like the XLm1.. And so on.. With the power your running giving the lv3s rated and some change would be perfect and the new lv3m2 with the stronger motor allows it to be made in 18s

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Post by scionwithbass Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:10 pm

Ok so level 3m2. Sweet. That makes sense now. All that's left to do is find out the price and sell off my subs
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Post by stephen_og Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:28 pm

and johns name on here is meathead.. he will most likely see this and PM you

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Post by scionwithbass Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:34 pm

I PM him about 10 minutes ago. So im just waiting for a reply.
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Post by Emery.H Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:21 pm

I would go with more cone area. You've seen what my Xs do. They're not even the new ones!
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Post by scionwithbass Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:22 pm

Emery.H wrote:I would go with more cone area. You've seen what my Xs do. They're not even the new ones!
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Thats why I was considering the 4 15" Xs. How do you like those xs? And how many watts are you putting into them?
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Post by Emery.H Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:28 pm

Love em'. Just need "more" after listening to them for a year and a half.

My 1500 is at .5, but since I've torn a couple tinsel leads i assume i was pushing more than their max rms which was 300. So it couldn't have been any more than 1600, but there is no way to really tell so this is all pointless speculation Very Happy

They're only 115 each, which is DIRT cheap. You could bump up to the SSDs for a power bump. I wouldn't hesitate to get those at all. If SSA wasn't coming out with the Fcon i would already have the SSDs.
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Post by scionwithbass Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:34 pm

Ya I was considering the cheap subs to get 4 of them, but im probably going to get the DC m2 lvl 3 18s
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Post by Emery.H Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:44 pm

I still vote more cone area! cheers
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Post by stephen_og Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:10 pm

Emery.H wrote:I still vote more cone area! cheers

well two 18s ISSS more cone area then he already has lol

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Post by Emery.H Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:44 pm

True.

With them in the proper box it will be an even nicer upgrade! JP Accord Razz
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Post by Zooook Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:27 am

that m3a is VERY underrated!

It's been clamped at 4,000+ watts!

M2 lvl3 rated at 900 but tests have shown that they can take more power no problem. I'd say m2 lvl4's would be your best bet.

Your probably clipping cause you don't have enough electrical to run your amp yet. You need to upgrade that Batt in the front and get 1 in the rear and run's of 1/0 from front to back.

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Post by scionwithbass Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:58 am

Im saving for a second battery and 0 gauge right now. But Ive made up my mind on the new system. Im going to get 4 15" SSA Fcons when they come out or 4 15 Fi SSDs. They should handle around 700 watts and they will do good with 3.25 cubes im pretty sure. Its going to be a pain to build the new box.. oh well, I will have all summer. I need to fix 13-14 cubes, which I know I can.


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Post by Emery.H Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:04 am

I may have an extra battery that i would sell. What size fits under your hood? LxWxH
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Post by scionwithbass Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:12 am

Idk, Id probly put it in the back, then have my dad get a good one up front this summer. Ill PM you.
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